This commission is breaking the law. It is going to come as a rude shock to them when they are forced to follow the 45 foot height cap that the citizens voted for.. The Gulfstrem can still be a beautiful hotel and asset to our town. Not just 65 feet tall.
The current Gulfstream Hotel is over 85 feet tall. The surrounding buildings are taller than 65 feet. Nothing but a hotel can be built higher than 45 feet and the carved out exception was to lure exactly this type of improvement. To make the historic hotel viable.
I'm no expert on how many rooms make a hotel viable but by allowing only three stories for the new structure would look out of place in that setting. At last night forum, we heard a lot about compromise. So offer a compromise.
McVoy said he was in favor of HH developing the site, then voted against them. What a hypocrite. The nuance is that the zoning needed to be changed for ANYTHING to move forward. Whether it is 3 stories or 6 stories. The zoning would still need to be changed. A parking garage cannot be built in a multi-family zone.
Your fight will come when they submit their plan. The lawsuits will fly and Lawsuit Larry will be able to delay the project until the guy gives up and we get to keep our unviable shell of an ancient hotel empty for another decade. Congratulations, good job.
I certainly can say that I am offended by your comment on McVoy. Of course, he wants Hudson to develop the hotel property (everyone does) but he wants it to stay within the heights Charter amendment of 45 feet. That would be a 4 story building.
I you ever come over here and use the name "Larry" ever again, no matter the content of your message it will be DELETED. I have asked you before. And Mr. McNamara has nothing to do with this probable lawsuit.
A "viable" hotel per Hudson Holdings attorney is 120 rooms. Let them build a 4 story addition and submit plans for that.
Excuse me? Chris McVoy is a hypocrite for voting his conscience while the rest of you grovel and kiss HH's but at every opportunity? More one sided, false ranting to allow no one except developers to have any say in OUR town. We do want the Gulfstream developed. Why has HH left it to the rats and vagrants with numerous code violations for so long? First, priority #1 was to get the beach. Even Andy Amoroso states as much in the ITN audio. Hold the city hostage until they give in and let them have their private beach club. Then change it to giving us pools, then more changes, then public/private partnership etc. ad infinitum. Chris McVoy is one of the 2 honest commissioners representing wise development in accordance with the law. Get real and stop ranting falsehoods to demonize those who disagree with you while the gang of 3 persists in representing only developers and ignoring the people of Lake Worth. Money should not buy government, even golden-assed developer's money.
"A "viable" hotel per Hudson Holdings attorney is 120 rooms. Let them build a 4 story addition and submit plans for that."
They would need the zoning change to do just that. So by denying them a change in zoning, you are denying them the opportunity to do anything there. So you can vote against them doing anything but still be in favor of them developing the property?
I don't understand why you don't know what the referendum was about--45 FEET. Have your friends submit their plan for 45 feet. This zoning change gives them 65 feet. Don't be twisted like a pretzel and act dumb.
Zoning is a political vote from the dais. It can be done.
It is fairly simple. The zoning tells what type of building and parameters you need to follow. If a particular zoning allowed up to 100 feet and you only wanted to go 40 feet high, you'd still need the same zoning. Your fight is with the design, not the zoning. But if you fightthe zoning, you are denying anything resembling a two story garage which cannot be built in a multi-family zone.
The parcels where the proposed new hotel is to be built are already zoned Downtown/Mixed use, which can build anything allowed in that zone. It is the two story garage that you all are fighting. Silly don't you think?
Once again, we voted in 45 feet. There is nothing silly about that.
Zoning can be changed on a 3 to 2 vote. There is nothing silly about that either. It is a reality.
HH can build a 4 story building. And those parcels are zoned MF-30. Now, if he wants to submit a design for a garage, then they can fight city hall on that zoning and get their 3 votes or go underground like the Lucerne.
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This commission is breaking the law. It is going to come as a rude shock to them when they are forced to follow the 45 foot height cap that the citizens voted for.. The Gulfstrem can still be a beautiful hotel and asset to our town. Not just 65 feet tall.
The current Gulfstream Hotel is over 85 feet tall. The surrounding buildings are taller than 65 feet. Nothing but a hotel can be built higher than 45 feet and the carved out exception was to lure exactly this type of improvement. To make the historic hotel viable.
I'm no expert on how many rooms make a hotel viable but by allowing only three stories for the new structure would look out of place in that setting. At last night forum, we heard a lot about compromise. So offer a compromise.
McVoy said he was in favor of HH developing the site, then voted against them. What a hypocrite. The nuance is that the zoning needed to be changed for ANYTHING to move forward. Whether it is 3 stories or 6 stories. The zoning would still need to be changed. A parking garage cannot be built in a multi-family zone.
Your fight will come when they submit their plan. The lawsuits will fly and Lawsuit Larry will be able to delay the project until the guy gives up and we get to keep our unviable shell of an ancient hotel empty for another decade. Congratulations, good job.
I certainly can say that I am offended by your comment on McVoy. Of course, he wants Hudson to develop the hotel property (everyone does) but he wants it to stay within the heights Charter amendment of 45 feet. That would be a 4 story building.
I you ever come over here and use the name "Larry" ever again, no matter the content of your message it will be DELETED. I have asked you before. And Mr. McNamara has nothing to do with this probable lawsuit.
A "viable" hotel per Hudson Holdings attorney is 120 rooms. Let them build a 4 story addition and submit plans for that.
Excuse me? Chris McVoy is a hypocrite for voting his conscience while the rest of you grovel and kiss HH's but at every opportunity? More one sided, false ranting to allow no one except developers to have any say in OUR town. We do want the Gulfstream developed. Why has HH left it to the rats and vagrants with numerous code violations for so long? First, priority #1 was to get the beach. Even Andy Amoroso states as much in the ITN audio. Hold the city hostage until they give in and let them have their private beach club. Then change it to giving us pools, then more changes, then public/private partnership etc. ad infinitum. Chris McVoy is one of the 2 honest commissioners representing wise development in accordance with the law. Get real and stop ranting falsehoods to demonize those who disagree with you while the gang of 3 persists in representing only developers and ignoring the people of Lake Worth. Money should not buy government, even golden-assed developer's money.
"A "viable" hotel per Hudson Holdings attorney is 120 rooms. Let them build a 4 story addition and submit plans for that."
They would need the zoning change to do just that. So by denying them a change in zoning, you are denying them the opportunity to do anything there. So you can vote against them doing anything but still be in favor of them developing the property?
What kind of pretzel logic is that?
I don't understand why you don't know what the referendum was about--45 FEET. Have your friends submit their plan for 45 feet. This zoning change gives them 65 feet. Don't be twisted like a pretzel and act dumb.
Zoning is a political vote from the dais. It can be done.
It is fairly simple. The zoning tells what type of building and parameters you need to follow. If a particular zoning allowed up to 100 feet and you only wanted to go 40 feet high, you'd still need the same zoning. Your fight is with the design, not the zoning. But if you fightthe zoning, you are denying anything resembling a two story garage which cannot be built in a multi-family zone.
The parcels where the proposed new hotel is to be built are already zoned Downtown/Mixed use, which can build anything allowed in that zone. It is the two story garage that you all are fighting. Silly don't you think?
Once again, we voted in 45 feet. There is nothing silly about that.
Zoning can be changed on a 3 to 2 vote. There is nothing silly about that either. It is a reality.
HH can build a 4 story building. And those parcels are zoned MF-30. Now, if he wants to submit a design for a garage, then they can fight city hall on that zoning and get their 3 votes or go underground like the Lucerne.
Heights = 45 feet.
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