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Budget Workshop #4 took place last night. Under every circumstance, a budget workshop is where staff presents and commissioners ask questions and set the policy as to what they will be spending and where they will be spending it as well as to understand all the particulars. This is the time that they do that--during the workshop--not after the Budget has been formulated.Last night, however, was another exception to normal protocol that we have always expected. When questions were asked or comments were made by Commissioners McVoy and Mulvehill, they were shot down by the mayor, Pam Triolo, and told to move on...questions would be answered at a later meeting. When asked "when" by Commissioner McVoy, it was left unanswered...time and date unknown. Then she would roll her eyes and then Scott Maxwell would follow suit.
Normally Maxwell is tough on any budget presentation (he has never approved of any Budget in the past) but last night the only thing he seemed to focus on was having a baseball field in the south end of town. Commissioner Mulvehill came well prepared to ask the questions and to get to the bottom of the discrepancies but she was stopped in her tracks. Even McVoy asked about transparency and the eyes would roll again. Commissioner Amoroso made some good points.
The City Manager Bornstein intimated that he had not been able to meet with them one on one--ran out of time-- and that is how he likes to do it (answer their questions) prior to the workshop and then just present his numbers. Meeting with commissioners prior to a public workshop meeting is alright but all that communication should be in the Sunshine. Telling commissioners that they are not allowed to ask questions that involve the spending of tax dollars, is outrageous in itself.
The Sunshine Law is applicable to a workshop meeting held by the city commission to discuss future city business. "The obvious intent [of the Sunshine Law] was to cover any gathering of the members where the members deal with some matter on which foreseeable action will be taken by the board." The public has a right to know what questions were asked and what answers were given and how Staff wants to spend all of the revenue.
In the Town of Palm Beach v. Gradison, 296 So.2d 473, 475 (Fla. 1974), the Supreme Court expostulated: "Every meeting of any board, commission, agency or authority of a municipality should be a marketplace of ideas, so that the governmental agency may have sufficient input from the citizens who are going to be affected by the subsequent action of the municipality. The ordinary taxpayer can no longer be led blindly down the path of government, for the news media, by constantly reporting community affairs, has made the taxpayer aware of governmental problems. Government, more so now that ever before, should be responsive to the wishes of the public. These wishes could never be known in nonpublic meetings, and the governmental agencies would be deprived of the benefit of suggestions and ideas which may be advanced by the knowledgeable public."
This workshop meeting was a farce and a total waste of time especially when the city manager told the commission that they could make recommendations during their one on one meetings out of the Sunshine. All this boiled down to was a budget presentation by the Finance Director on behalf of the City Manager...all were to sit there like good little subjects...questions were not going to be tolerated.
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No more texting Jack and Peggy.
I am really starting to lose faith in the CM and his office, try calling the city hall, they don't even call or email you back or to try to get a meeting with them is like pulling teeth. I am right there with you Lynn, I agree. What is your take on this man? Not impressed yet!
"The City Manager Bornstein intimated that he had not been able to meet with them one on one--ran out of time-- and that is how he likes to do it (answer their questions) prior to the workshop and then just present his numbers. Meeting with commissioners prior to a public workshop meeting is alright but all that communication should be in the Sunshine. Telling commissioners that they are not allowed to ask questions that involve the spending of tax dollars, is outrageous in itself."
If the City manager keeps this crap up, he is not going to last very long here in LW!
This is completely unacceptable mediocrity, the commission should fire this CM now then, we all deserve better in this city. The I Love Lake Worth Committee needs to pounce on this guy now!
"This workshop meeting was a farce and a total waste of time especially when the city manager told the commission that they could make recommendations during their one on one meetings out of the Sunshine. All this boiled down to was a budget presentation by the Finance Director on behalf of the City Manager...all were to sit there like good little subjects...questions were not going to be tolerated."
The citation from the Town of Palm Beach v. Gradison needs to be engraved on the wall of every government body's meeting chamber.
Thanks Lynn for finding and publishing it.
How come Scott Maxwell is not screaming? Oh that's right, it was all bs from him. It was trans stuff that he hated.
Oh, if only Susan Stanton was still the city manager. We would be a low rise city flush with cash and a real budget.
Wait, Stanton WAS city manager and none of that ever happened.
boo hoo hoo
Stanton WAS turning the city around until Scott Maxwell fired her. Now we have staff running the city with him as leader. How sweet it is.
Prejudging THIS CM is the same as prejudging Stanton which happened with Stanton but the fact is Bornstein is our CM now.
It seems that everyone one is willing to "burn him at the stake" now that a CM is placed under a different Political majority which was the same when Stanton was CM.
Guess what peeps....Its just politics in both cases and we "meaning both sides" needs to give one CM a chance. Michael is here now and just give the man a chance. This is not a "cheerleader" request just a request to stop the stupidity.
If you want to take the heights to a vote! God Bless and lets do that but I hope that you all and BOTH sides understand that it will go either way. Give the people a vote I will always agree with. Just stop the petty attacking and fales no fact based bull crap that everyone and again both sides spew in this town.
Love and Peace
Lynn's Little Bit of Trivia is not burning him at the stake--just pointing out things that bothered me during this meeting!
He is a fun person with loads of personality. No one would burn someone like that at the stake. Maxwell, or Triolo, now that's something to think about. We'll give Amoroso a pass on the Budget workshop meeting.
I can just see it if Stanton was still there and pulled a trick like this. She would have been burned at the stake right there and on the spot. Scott would have thrown every baseball he could muster right at her heart.
Little miss "I'll listen to everyone" has proved herself a liar and a hack mayor. Who pulls the strings behind the egotists Triolo and Maxwell?
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