An important little bit of trivia:
Heights Charter Amendment
Passed by the voters on March 12, 2013 to keep the heights in our downtown to 45 feet or four stories.
Hudson Holdings buys the Gulfstream property 14 months after the vote.
May 15, 2014
So for anyone to believe that the Heights Charter amendment is a vote against The Gulfstream is misguided. The vote is to ensure our small downtown stays that way. It was suggested that building to 5 stories was some sort of a compromise by Hudson Holdings and the Charter Amendment. There is NO compromise on a vote. A vote is what it is--the will of the people.
And this is what Hudson Holdings wants to put in our downtown, at least as of Wednesday night, and this City and the Historic Board are allowing it.
Hudson Holdings was told from day one that they could only build to 45 feet per our charter amendment. They chose to ignore our law.
ReplyDeleteI do want to see the Gulfstream renovated historically and reopened. But I just cringe to imagine the entire lower end of Lake Worth looking like that skyline. Goodbye Lake Worth, hello Miami Beach. You can see the waterfront if you own a penthouse right on the water, otherwise look at a picture of what it used to be. I would like to see the Gulfstream be the exception that was granted to it, rather than a blueprint to be copied by every developer that wants to make a killing in Lake Worth. I also wonder if I will have to access our beach via Lantana and AIA, since WW conveniently thinks a traffic study would be in order AFTER ALL IS BUILT. WTF good is that going to do after the fact??
ReplyDeleteA traffic study AFTER everything is built???? You must be kidding. Now I know why Palm beach County is one big traffic snarl !!!
ReplyDeleteHey all you Goldcoast Tower residents that spoke in favor of Hudson Holdings---- ENJOY LOOKING AT A WALL,WITH NO BREEZE ! It couldn't happen to a better group of A-Holes . You get exactly what you deserve !!
ReplyDeleteWonder how much they will pay the valet for
ReplyDeletethe free parking some were promised!
The folks at the Gulfstream Towers know exactly what they getting. And they would rather look at a developed piece of property than two abandoned buildings and weeds which is what they've had to endure for the past decade. Blight.
ReplyDeleteAnd to anon at 11:28, who told Hudson they could only build to 45'? Please post the law, ordinance or charter amendment. I've been trying to find it. Maybe it was you who told them.
A "Traffic Management study" can only be performed when you have traffic, not before. What a bunch of idiots. Did yoou listen to the meeting at all?
I would prefer another color please, but the rest looks excellent! Very exciting to see this moving forward instead of a run down abandoned hotel at such a premier location.
ReplyDeleteI foresee significant positive impacts to the livelihood of our City, including and even more successful Street Painting Festival where people make this weekend an annual destination vacation, stay in right in our downtown and are able walk to the festival, and enjoy our beach front! Maybe even a chance to have other festivals. A Jazzfest, where downtown restaurants and bars all participate in addition to a main stage. This opens up so many more possibilities. Thank you for posting this!
@2:37--you're speaking for everyone at the Goldcoast Towers and what they want? You sound like one of the trio who never, not once, talked to anyone at the Goldcoast Towers.
ReplyDeleteAnd what I said about building to 45 feet, anonymous, was just that...build to 45 feet. The vote is supreme. If you want to start researching this stuff, be my guest. But you don't want to go there with me. I'm trying to stay nice.
A Traffic Management Study is one thing but there should have been a Traffic study just to see how it would affect that area. They didn't request that of HH but this trio voted to pay for one at the beach for HH. Now why is that?
Hey 2:37 - 45 feet became the law at one minute after midnight on the day after the election. It does not matter that Pam Lopez failed to do her legally demanded job. Surprise-you A-holes thought that if Lopez didn't send election results to Tallahassee they didn't count. The jokes on you. The results were certified by the Supervisor of elections. The law stands. And I for one hope a judge throws the book at Lake Worth. I hope Torcivia gets disbarred.Until a court says otherwise,45 IS THE LAW IN THAT AREA. Several residents told Hudson Holdings about the election results at the Pineapple Beach neighborhood meeting when Michals first farted his way into town and lied to our faces about the beautiful Gulfstream that was supposed to be completed within 14 months.
ReplyDeleteTraffic studies are conducted BEFORE approval for a project is given! Katie Mcgiveron
ReplyDeleteLynn, what would you say to having another election on heights?
ReplyDeleteWhat if it could be done, was going to happen,....and it approved the variance to HH.
What would your recourse be then?
@9:09--what I would say--
ReplyDeleteThis city has done everything within its power not to enforce the election we had on March 12, 2013.
Therefore, I would say, "Go shove it."
Next, to say that there was a Charter Amendment (referendum) twenty years ago on heights, I would say -PROVE IT. Stop saying this sort of thing in public because it sounds good. One thing that you people do is trample over the rights of people--you people been doing it for years and you continue to do it.
I hate what your're doing to my city.
I hate
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ReplyDeletewhat would you say to having another election
for the commissioners?
What if it could be done, was going to happen,
....and it approved the ridiculous idea that
you just keep voting till you get the results You Want?
What would the recourse be then? None - it's tyranny!
Chaos would follow because there are No Rules!
What is wrong w/people that they do not know and if they
do know the rules - think they too do not have to obey them?
The mayor stated a few times the city doesn't obey it's
own sign laws - it ticks her off - really - if it did
she'd stop it immediately. How does she expect the people
to obey the laws if she AND some reps are breaking the
laws and she has done NOTHING to change that?
This city will TAKE a HOMESTEADED HOUSE for 10" of grass!
They wrote words on paper that the Gov trumps your Mortgage
and any liens on the property...and the code officer is not
liable civilly or criminally for entering your PRIVATE PROPERTY
upon suspicion of wrong doing! Where's the warrant and innocent
till proven guilty? What about MY/OUR Private Property Rights?
You HAVE NONE if you allow reps to make it up as they go along!
Some are worried about the new candidates when the ones here now
should scare the bejesus outta anyone that understands the structure
and function of gov - To Protect OUR RIGHTS not 'moving forward'
destroying them to get the results they have decided you want? WTH!?!
Nudge - Push - Shove - Force
We are now between Shove & Force!
What will you do Anon when they take away the 'right' you think is
secure by a simple reps vote of 3-2 and poof - it's gone!
Please think about the precedence they are setting and when the dais
switches up (as it always has and always will) how this made up
power can do serious harm to anyone of us!
Here's to anonymous @ 2:37pm re "A traffic management study can only be performed when you have traffic, not before. What a bunch of idiots. Did yoou listen to the meeting at all?"
ReplyDeleteYour insults are a bit higher than your IQ on the above. From the US Dept. of Transportation: "feasibility studies...should consider a wide range of alternatives...implementation of congestion pricing...The constraining considerations include: ...public involvement. And yes these studies are conducted prior to enactment of the project per the above reference. Why on earth would you do a study after the fact?? To tear it back down?? YooU get real. Please. And be sure to ask WW about this, since the next step BEFORE allowing HH to further develop our beach, was to be a "traffic feasibility study." As you know our beach and the area around the Gulfstream both have become congested to the point of gridlock on occasion. Please note: there are cars and traffic there already. And congestion sometimes backed up into Lake Ave. past Andy's store. Ask him, hotshot! It's on tape.(audio ITN)
Lovely drawings but doubt any of this will ever see shovel one of dirt. Expect to see some ooooops, we found some major infrastructure problems in the historic Gulfstream, our expert says can not be repaired. Next comes demo order and next comes, new vanilla hotel (one, not two, how does two make any sense) in that same spot. Mark my words.
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